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A miracle is a miracle...BUTThe fertility clinic acted unethically. Have they no screening process? The woman has six children, a daunting number in todays economy, that alone should have made them them make sure she was mentally aware of how another child (assuming they were hoping for one)would affect her family financially and emotionally. I suspect if she had gone to any respectable adoption agency seeking another child, she would have not qualified.
I suspect there was an arrangement. Have the brood, get the cash, share it. She was a uterine billboard. Call me jaded.
One of the biggest problems the world faces, if not the biggest problem, is overpopulation. Octopussy isn't doing her part to solve the problem, is she?
In Japan she'd be a hero. Not enough babies there. So send her to Tokyo.
Three of her first six childen have diabilities. One with autism. This is no "miracle." This is a person with some serious mental issues. Even her own mother questions her sanity and makes it clear that she doesn't even take care of the kids she already had. I hope the state of California takes these kids away from her and they go to people who can truly care for them.
Shall we get started on her plastic surgery at age "early 30s?" I agree with you. The entire story is terrible.And now, with an open heart, I am ready to help the babies. It's not their fault. I hadn't heard about any of the six have issues. I don't subscribe to teh "who's gonna pay for them?" I get that - and it would be nice to punish MOm - but that would mean punishing the children. And it ain't their fault.What a mess - isn't it? The doc seems highly suspect. I'd tap him for some cash.
Of course the children shouldn't be punished at all. They should be taken away and put in the care of people who can give them the interventions and care they need. This woman lives in a shack with her parents, who have made it clear they can barely take care of the six she dumps on them, she has no job and no spouse to help. No one person can properly care for 14children. She is currently looking for donations yet she sat in that interview she did with NBC with professionally manicured nails. Who paid for that? She also collected over $160,000 in disablity payments claiming she hurt her back at work yet she goes on to carry eight babies and seems fine. The woman is sick and hopefully the state of California will intervene for the safety and well being of those babies.
This is OCD at its worst. She is not hoarding kittens. I don't care one iota about her but someone has to help those babies.It is hard to believe that someone would use children for money but it is obvious that it is very easy to do.We live in a very strange time. The media has made her a star. God bless those kids. It sounds very hollow to say that everything happens for a reason and everyone has a purpose, Maybe one of them will grow up and save the world.
If she had 14 cats or dogs in that house the Humane Society would more than likely view her as having some sort of problem and take them away, yet these kids are going to have to grow up in that environment? That is SO very wrong.
I agree - but we don't take a woman's children because she is an idiot. Her parents would have ot have her declared mentally unfit first. Are they willing to do that?It's a horrible mess. I saw her fancy website today. Hey, I need a hundred grand for my family too. Who's going to build me a website? And do my nails? And puff up my lips. And Japansese straighen my hair (good luck with that.) It's crazy. In the truest sense.
Talk of yanking kids and placing them into the nightmare of social services sends up a red flag for me. My wife had our son at home, which is our lawful right, and when she went to the hospital a day later, the staff alerted CPS because we didn't bring our perfectly healthy baby into the disease-ridden ER. The nurses were very nice about it and they gave us the heads-up on the situation, which they made out to be nothing more than what their jobs required them to report under the strange circumstance, and nothing came of it--but the fact remains that my wife sought care at a facility that turned around and put us in a situation where we may have had to fight in order to keep our son.Pediatricians and pediatric nurses threaten social services all the the time to parents who don't vaccinate... parents who selectively vaccinate. Idle threats, overwhelmingly in most cases, but many doctors follow through and file reports.Now that's some compassionate care for you and your kids.I agree with Kim... the woman's a moron, and I have strong feelings myself about what she's done and how she's behaving.
She has serious problems. The baby hoarding and the plastic surgery would be bad enough on their own (considering this woman is on disability and living with her parents, and shouldn't be able to afford either plastic surgery or IVF more than once) but taken together...SIGH. Also, the fact that she claims she needs a big family because of her dysfunctional childhood, yet her first six children are now being cared for by the mother who raised her so dysfunctionally? Huh.
Josh! Are you using the face cream they keep offering me on FaceBook! You look so young!
I worry about the babies. There are developmental disabilities in the family. We all know that multiples increase the risks.A few years ago I really wanted to have another baby (I still do, the economy is a bummer isn't it?) and I spoke at length to our DAN doc about how to increase our odds for a healthy sibling. I thought we had a better chance with a girl and had found out that I could engineer a girl through a specialized IVF procedure. I was told that I am absolutely not allowed to do IVF that I was just exchanging one set of risks for another set (and in his mind a worse set of risks). Of course there are healthy IVF babies and my heart goes out to those seeking to solve their fertility issues, but the news about IVF is similar to that of the vaccines. Doctors who are invested in a very profitable business refusing to acknowledge that there are serious risks (other than those associated with multiples).So, I worry about these IVF babies with an autistic sibling who gestated under the most difficult of circumstances. And, incidentally, I am also concerned for the older disabled siblings whose needs will still need to be met.Gail C.
I think she's nutso. Did you catch that picture of her on HuffPo showing off her belly right before she gave birth?God help those children. All of them.
Kim -- I went to the same cosmetic surgeon as Octopussy. Unfortunately, my face always looks like this now, and they didn't disclose the total hair loss side effect. But the weight loss is nice!
I wonder if Octopussy will be shopping around to have a tummy tuck now. Wouldn't surprise me. What a scam.
Speaking as someone who has a large family herself (five children, including an autistic child, is a large family by today's standards), I think this lady is nuts.I normally believe that it is no one's business how many children one chooses to have. There is a family in Arkansas where the father is a senator (I believe the Duggars) and they have 18 children. But the difference? They are MARRIED. He SUPPORTS THEM.This woman is single, has no job, has six children already, some with special needs, and now has eight more.I also think her fertility doctor is nuts to agree to this. If he knew that she already had six children, had no job, and was single, yet implanted six embryos, then IMO he acted irresponsibly and unethically.I have known couples who have done IVF and have never heard of more than three embryos being transferred at once. To transfer six, especially in these circumstances, was just plain wrong.You know, I consider myself to be a pretty nonjudgemental person in regards to someone wanting to have lots of children, but this situation, yes I definitely DO judge it negatively.
Josh, the look works for the kid in the e-trade ads. I think you can handle it. Navy Wife: I agree. The entire situation is F'ed up. Excuse me, IVF'ed up.
Just a result of our culture of immediate gratification--having all the babies you want and not having to support them. Although I view it a little less crazy than most, I think she is terribly selfish to put this on her family and children. Her poor mother and kids! I have to say, this didn't even surprise me, as she is just a product of a self0indulgent generation.
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